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Karl Oyston Step Down – HELP the Petition

Post by daib0 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:45 pm

I’m happy to forward this to you all – I believe fans should help each other for the benefit of all. I’m a Reading fan, as many of you know, but I write regularly on many different forums, and feel that I know the ins-and-outs of many. I also help to organize inter-forum games and competitions.

Right now the overwhelming majority of Blackpool fans need YOU to sign their big petition - please help! The following should help to explain everything. If you still feel you need more info as good as any: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Oyston



from Blackpool Supporters Trust


Hi All,

Any assistance that you can give in supporting our petition would be greatly appreciated. You may already have heard, but our club chairman Karl Oyston has been in the press this week for insulting a fan by text. The press has focused on the use of language which could be considered offensive including use of the term "Retard" and the comment "Enjoy your special needs day out", which have been widely condemned, due to the offence it may cause to the disabled, their families and indeed decent society. Football is supposed to be inclusive and clearly the use of such language cannot be tolerated.

However Oyston has not only insulted those with disabilities, he also appears to believe that normal everyday working people are also somehow beneath him and in doing so has widely insulted football fans across the country.

Here is one example of a text sent to a Blackpool fan by Karl Oyston...

"So let me get this straight, you think that despite knowing and being friendly with other chairman in the FL and PL, venture capitalists, bankers, entrepeneurs, very successful businessmen, government ministers, MP's and a whole host of notable worthies, that I should single out a fat flaccid painter and decorator/consultant whose crowning achievment is taking his poor family on holiday to Orlando for three torturous weeks a year? really? I suggest you slip discreetly back into whatever foul pond you emerged from. Crack on as I am enjoying myself. you are on toast and are too simple to realise it. In fact you have cheered me up no end and made me realise I am right to completely ignore the influential fans so cheers." Karl Oyston.

Karl Oyston is, as you may be aware, also on the Football League Board and therefore has an influential role in the decisions that may affect your football club. We firmly believe there is no place in football for anyone with such a dismissive attitude towards us, the fans.
Blackpool Fans also believe that Oyston should be removed from his position on the Football League board.


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Club President Valeri Belokon has called upon all Blackpool fans to support a petition for Club Chairman Karl Oyston to step down from his position with immediate effect.

Blackpool Supporters Trust would ask that our members , Blackpool fans and indeed all in the football community support Mr Belokons request and sign the attached petition that requests that Mr Karl Oyston step down from any position of influence in Blackpool FC immediately. This petition will be submitted to the FA and Football League as well as to Blackpool Football Club owner Mr Owen Oyston.

As many fans will be aware, Karl Oyston has recently been in the national and local media, having engaged in a series of abusive text exchanges with Blackpool supporters, which has further sullied the good name of Blackpool FC through association.

The attitude displayed by Mr Oyston, not only in regard to the unacceptable references to disabilities and ' special needs ' but in his general attitude towards hard working Blackpool fans in general makes him in our view unsuitable to hold a position of influence within our famous community football club.

For some time the relationship between Club and its fans has been strained and it is our firm belief that many of these issues are a direct result of Karl Oyston and his confrontational approach to the fan base. This latest outburst from Mr Oyston is simply a very public demonstration of an attitude that as has no place on football and decent society and which in addition has had a negative impact on relations between Karl Oyston and numerous managers , board members , members of the Press , players , fans and of course, Mr Belokon himself. When one individual manages to sour relations with so many other people, then the source of the problem becomes patently obvious. Karl Oyston seems incapable of managing everyday relationships without conflict and that cannot be good for Blackpool Football Club.

The time has come for Blackpool Football Club to move on into a new era of cooperation between Club and its fans and the wider community and for us to build upon the success that Valeri Belokon's substantial investment had brought about. Blackpool Supporters Trust call upon Mr Owen Oyston to remove Karl Oyston from any position of influence with immediate effect and re-establish a working relationship with Valeri Belokon, with a view to making positive progress, placing football first, investing properly for the success of the team and to start treating the fans and community of Blackpool with the respect that they deserve from the ambassador of our historic club.

Please sign the online petition detailing your full name & email address, together with any comments that you feel are relevant.



Sign Petition HERE





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Re: Karl Oyston Step Down – HELP the Petition

Post by Ethiaa » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:06 pm

Gotta feel for the donkey lashers really. You wouldn't want him at your club.

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Post by daib0 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:10 pm

this in the papers today

BLACKPOOL FC chairman Karl Oyston called a loyal fan a “******” and “f***tard” in a bitter foul-mouthed rant. He launched his tirade at Steve Smith, branding him an “intellectual cripple”.

The text exchange was started by Steve to get some answers on the running of the Championship strugglers — who were thumped 6-1 at home by Bournemouth yesterday. But the football boss referred to him and other disgruntled fans as “lower mentality types”. Oyston raged at the dad-of-three: “Sorry your life is so s*** but that’s only your fault not mine. Enjoy the rest of your special needs day out.” He asked: “Are you sure we’ve met? I’m sure I’d have remembered such a massive ******. Impossible to have a meaningful conversation with such a f******* as you.”

Oyston, whose dad Owen is a convicted rapist, may face an FA probe after being reported. Business boss, Steve, 31, said Oyston banned him from the ground. He added: “As a chairman you should respond in a polite manner.”

Mencap called Oyston’s language “disgusting”. Despite repeated requests, he was not available for comment.

Probably because he knows he's gone too far this time. For somebody who claims to be thick skinned and not bothered by fans chants, demonstrations etc, why is he having one fan (who has in a professional capacity done work for KO, some time ago, and has still not been paid) having the police on his doorstep, weekly, requiring him to accompany them to the station for questioning on the grounds of harassment? Why is he banning lifetime fans for the most puerile reasons? He is alienating his customer base because they dare challenge his decisions. Some things transcend rivalry, this is one. Oh, and why would someone who has publicly said he doesn't care for football be the chairman of a championship club AND be on the FL board?

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:14 pm

That was last week wasn't it?

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Post by daib0 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:20 pm

Ethiaa wrote:That was last week wasn't it?
yep, that's why it all got going ... they said enough was enough this time

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:37 pm

The "financial issues" would have been enough for me personally. I have some links with some of his former associates who are very forthright about what they understood he and his family have been doing over the years. As I said, I wouldn't want him at my club.

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Post by daib0 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:50 pm

now nearly 5,700 signed ...

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Post by daib0 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:58 pm

We will probably never know exactly what that whole exchange was, but Oyston's mobile number was posted on a BFC forum, I believe. And as I understand it, and told to me, the fan did not even start the abusive comments, but simply made criticisms. Whatever was said - did it warrant the crassness of Oyston's comments regarding disabilities, 'special needs', belittling those who weren't born into the privileged life he has? Is his behaviour, not only over this incident, but amply proved over time now, befitting of a championship football club chairman and a member of the Football League board? So that's the real basis of this petition...

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Post by mrblackbat » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:38 am

Publishing someone's private number to open them up for anonymous abuse is also pretty terrible behaviour. Whilst I agree that Oyston's financial treatment of the club is poor, once you start sending messages to someone's personal number, in my opinion you give up the right to start talking about their behaviour. Would be interest in to know how this would have progressed had Oyston gone to the police as per his apology, instead of replying directly. For instance if he was sent threats, the people sending them would be liable for prosecution.

Put another way, how would you feel if someone posted your number on a forum, giving free reign for people to send whatever they like to you? People are human, and I don't think I'd react too kindly to the situation, regardless ofmy positio n. As with most things in football, fans seem to believe they can do what they like whilst those involved in the game must behave perfectly at all times. Which is clearly nonsense.

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Post by -BARON-23- » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:37 pm

I was at Blackpool v Bournemouth (1-6) and it's not as bad in the ground as it was when we were trying to get rid of Kean for so long but it's certainly not a very nice atmosphere. The fans have already accepted relegation.

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Post by daib0 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:56 pm

Latest - taken from a Blackpool fan forum. You won't believe this mates!


"Up to now most fans threatened with legal action regarding comments made on this forum and other forms of social media have only received letters of pre action . As you may have recently read on other posts one of our fellow posters has now received documents from the Oystons' solicitors which require him to fill in earnings and assets to be presented to the courts as well as a request to submit his defence . They have also paid the court fees for £610 to take the poster concerned to the High Court in Manchester with a claim lodged for up to £50,000 each for John Owen Oyston, Karl Samuel Oyston and Blackpool Football Club Limited .One of the ludicrous claims the solicitors have made is that the comments made by this fan have, amongst other claims for damages, hit this years season ticket sales.

Our request for help is for anyone reading this message board who didn't renew this season, e-mails on the following address a quick resume as to why they didn't renew. Possible reasons may include a lack of investment over the past few seasons, being treated with contempt by the present owners, having only 8 players up to a week before the season started, pre season training tour cancelled etc etc etc.

This in effect will show any judge preciding that to make a claim for these damages is ridiculous to say the least.

Many thanks for your time and if any other fans have received a summons that we don't know about that these emails may also help please let us know on the below email address."

justice4fans@outlook.com

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Post by Rover the Top » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:10 am

I can only shake my head in disbelief at fans who think they can plaster the internet with libelous comments about their club's officials and then complain about having legal action against them. They're in the wrong no matter how badly they feel the club is being run. We've had it here; idiots claiming they were victims in being silenced by legal threats instead of realising they'd be in the wrong to say what they wanted to.

I heard the bloke who was texting Oyston on the radio before Christmas, and whilst I'd phrase it differently, Oyston seemed pretty much right about him. You'd have to be a complete moron to pick up an unsolicited private phone number off the internet and start texting personal criticisms and insults to it expecting a cordial reply. Yet that's what he did and then ran off to the media to create more negative press for the club he claims to support. Whether he genuinely can't see what he did was wrong or was fishing for a reaction, he's an idiot.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:04 pm

Yep, pretty much sums it up.

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Post by daib0 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:43 pm

Rover the Top wrote:I can only shake my head in disbelief at fans who think they can plaster the internet with libelous comments about their club's officials and then complain about having legal action against them.
Yes, but sued to the tune of a max £150,000 ? http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport ... -1-7039184

Not saying it's right to throw internet abuse though, I've never even used swear words in tens of thousands of posts on football forums ...

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Post by mrblackbat » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:13 pm

daib0 wrote:
Rover the Top wrote:I can only shake my head in disbelief at fans who think they can plaster the internet with libelous comments about their club's officials and then complain about having legal action against them.
Yes, but sued to the tune of a max £150,000 ? http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport ... -1-7039184

Not saying it's right to throw internet abuse though, I've never even used swear words in tens of thousands of posts on football forums ...
That's actually a paltry amount for a defamation claim. If it was a newspaper, or other news agency, the damages would most likely be nearing a seven figure sum.

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