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Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16

Post by daib0 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:54 pm

Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16


The game is already well established, several seasons running now. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum (and Hakuna Matata to be precise) does the real hard mathematical donkey work all during the season, whilst I am the representative from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous forum and do more the ‘public relations’ type stuff as many already know. We are going to be your points of reference for all this coming season.

Some 750 of you have already participated in previous seasons. But for newcomers, what is this game? It’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2015-16 (that means placing all teams, in order from 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!!

BUT … THIS SEASON THE GAME WILL BE SPECIFICALLY A FORUM EVENT, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER EVENT, OK?! That means don’t give rash selections like some did before in the hope for personal glory; now it’s a team average event, so putting the relegated three as the two Manchesters plus Chelsea is hardly going to get a healthy prospect for your forum…
But this is an ideal way to keep fans from many different clubs all together… so where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people we will make a ‘board average’, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others across the land. It is set against an single initial average entry taken from your forum guesses, and this average will be the forum entry. Before we have the first update each forum entry will be made clear on every participating forum. Five different member entries as a minimum is the requirement (no maximum!), this so as to avoid ‘fluke’ results which might distort the good guess-work averaged out by forums with large numbers.


This game will initially take you a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – BEST IDEA is simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2015-16 season. The Sunderland computer handles them in an alphabetical order initially so please help us with accurate spelling, as laid out below:


Arsenal
Aston Villa (please don’t write only ‘Villa’!!)
Bournemouth
Chelsea
Crystal Palace (please don’t write only ‘Palace’!!)
Everton
Leicester City
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Norwich City
Southampton
Stoke City
Sunderland
Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur (please don’t write only ‘Spurs’!!)
Watford
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United


Try not to give any nicknames – putting the ‘Hammers’ or ‘Gunners’ or ‘Tigers’ or ‘Toffees’ or more disrespectful rival names might understandably be a good laugh – but it is simply a headache for us at our end so … Please!!




According to your choices your forum will score points, and better still, very few, points. And how do you sparingly score those points?


Scoring is as follows:

For each team your forum scores one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (that’s really excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better. I will endeavour to make updates at least at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, and usually fortnightly, scoring points from the ‘real’ live premier table at each moment, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest. So IMPORTANT! - The big winners are the forums at the end of the season who have LEAST points after the final game has been played.


The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That’s points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 30th/31st - except when part-way through a weekend programme in which case we will wait to a maximum of Monday night for completed weekend programme to calculate progress reports).

Here's the idea:

1st spot - take off 3 bonus points from score, so score dips even lower /

2nd - take off 2 bonus points /

3rd - take off 1 bonus point

Bonus Points are for the most successful - Positions 1 to 3 – and includes tied points so there may well be far more than 3 teams involved. Their position for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account which you do keep all season of course on lowering your overall total.



* LAST SEASON

How did the best forums do 2014-15? Here goes!


FORUM Honorary Gold Medal – Shared
• DCFC Fans Derby County
• Toffee Talk Everton

FORUM Honorary Silver Medal –
• United Lounge Manchester United

FORUM Honorary Bronze Medal – shared
• Foxes Talk Leicester City
• Black Cat Chat Sunderland

FORUM Honorary Diploma of Honour I
• Baggies Zone West Bromwich Albion

FORUM Honorary Diploma of Honour II – shared
• Not 606 Hull Board Hull City
• Toon Forum Newcastle United



During the past two seasons these forums have participated in one way or another:

Barnsley – Talk of the Tarn
Blackburn – Rovers Talk
Blackpool – Back Henry Street
Bournemouth - CourtOffside
Brighton – North Stand Chat
Burnley – The Longside
Cardiff – Cardiff City Forum
Crystal Palace – The Holmesdale
Derby – DCFC Fans
Doncaster – Viking Chat
Everton – Toffee Talk
Fulham – Friends of Fulham
Hemel Hempstead – Tudor Talk
Hull – Not 606 Hull Board
Leeds – LUFC Talk
Leeds – Dirty Leeds
Leicester – Foxes Talk
Man City – MCFC Forum
Man Utd – United Lounge
Newcastle – Toon Forum
Norwich – Not 606 Norwich Board
Nottm Forest – The A Block
Peterborough – Posh Forum
QPR – Not 606 QPR Board
Reading – Royals Rendezvous
Sunderland – Black Cat Chat
Swansea – Planet Swans
Tottenham – Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Fans Forum
Watford – WFC Forums
West Brom – Baggies Zone
West Ham – Cockney Boys
Wigan – This Northern Soul
(please excuse me if I have missed anyone out!)

But we’ll also have some new ones this season !

Note -
To avoid wums/trolls (or ‘jealous’ away fans) then what you see as any disruptive entry (e.g. an impossible order which would negatively help the forum) will not be included in the average entry at the request of any moderator/admin (by PM or on the thread itself), so if you see something strange please advise your mod team!

IMPORTANT –

ENTRIES IN BY 7TH AUGUST 2015 – late entries are not accepted, for we would not be able to add them to an average forum entry once the first Saturday matches have kicked off …!

Have fun …

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Re: Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16

Post by daib0 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:55 pm

Entries like this, MINE as an example, with your own order of teams of course!

1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Man City
4 Tottenham
5 Everton
6 Arsenal
7 Liverpool
8 West Ham
9 Crystal Palace
10 Swansea
11 Newcastle
12 Norwich City
13 Leicester City
14 West Brom
15 Sunderland
16 Southampton
17 Watford
18 Bournemouth
19 Stoke
20 Aston Villa



An important reminder - we need a minimum of FIVE entries each forum to constitute a forum average entry!!
Many forums ‘sticky’ or ‘pin’ this because we have proven we don’t quirk once the season has started, and this gets updated all-season long. If possible, this would help us no end, but if against internal policy then never mind …

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Re: Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16

Post by Gibbon » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:30 pm

1 Chelsea
2 Man City
3 Arsenal
4 Man Utd
5 Tottenham
6 Southampton
7 Everton
8 Liverpool
9 Stoke
10 Swansea
11 Crystal Palace
12 Aston Villa
13 West Brom
14 Norwich City
15 Sunderland
16 Newcastle
17 Watford
18 Bournemouth
19 West Ham
20 Leicester City

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Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:58 pm

Are you MAD? Can we reject our own supporters rather than just trolls on the basis of stupidity? :D



No seriously. The best bet is for EVERYONE on the forum to pick the SAME prediction and then hope it's close to right. So not Lancet-Smyth's obviously.

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Re: Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16

Post by Gibbon » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:58 pm

Ethiaa wrote:Are you MAD? Can we reject our own supporters rather than just trolls on the basis of stupidity? :D



No seriously. The best bet is for EVERYONE on the forum to pick the SAME prediction and then hope it's close to right. So not Lancet-Smyth's obviously.
Mine is clearly exactly right, and you shall eat your words charlatan.

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Post by daib0 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:03 pm

I've just done so far the forums starting with teams up to the letter 'C' today and the response has been great so far!

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Post by iamarover » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:24 am

Ethiaa wrote:No seriously. The best bet is for EVERYONE on the forum to pick the SAME prediction and then hope it's close to right. So not Lancet-Smyth's obviously.
So shall we just post our selections and decide which one we like best and edit our posts before the deadline?

1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Arsenal
4 Man City
5 Tottenham
6 Liverpool
7 Southampton
8 Everton
9 Crystal Palace
10 Aston Villa
11 Stoke
12 Swansea
13 West Ham
14 West Brom
15 Newcastle
16 Sunderland
17 Bournemouth
18 Watford
19 Leicester City
20 Norwich City

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Post by daib0 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:26 pm

iamarover wrote:
Ethiaa wrote:No seriously. The best bet is for EVERYONE on the forum to pick the SAME prediction and then hope it's close to right. So not Lancet-Smyth's obviously.
So shall we just post our selections and decide which one we like best and edit our posts before the deadline?

1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Arsenal
4 Man City
5 Tottenham
6 Liverpool
7 Southampton
8 Everton
9 Crystal Palace
10 Aston Villa
11 Stoke
12 Swansea
13 West Ham
14 West Brom
15 Newcastle
16 Sunderland
17 Bournemouth
18 Watford
19 Leicester City
20 Norwich City

editing is fine - any time up to day before kick-off = 7th August.
If anyone writes "Amended" or "Updated" on post so much the easier for me, when stressfully going through 40+ forums at the end!

Deciding which one is best is probably unworkable, there will never be 100% agreement! Every other forum will have an average - done by computer - from all your entries, so it's a true across the field reflection of everyone contributing their bit of effort. Even so, we stipulate a minimum of 5 people entering so it's a true average, not open to 'flukes' !!

So keep 'em coming in lads & lasses, even though loads of time yet!

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Post by Ethiaa » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:36 pm

Yeah, but being awkward is a pastime here :D

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Post by -BARON-23- » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:50 pm

1) Chelsea
2) Manchester United
3) Manchester City
4) Arsenal
5) Liverpool
6) Tottenham Hotspur
7) Everton
8) Stoke
9) Crystal Palace
10) Newcastle
11) Southampton
12) West Brom
13) Swansea
14) West Ham
15) Aston Villa
16) Sunderland
17) Watford
18) Norwich City
19) Leicester City
20) AFC Bournemouth

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Post by Rover Ryan » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:32 pm

01) Manchester City
02) Chelsea
03) Arsenal
04) Liverpool
05) Manchester United
06) Tottenham Hotspur
07) Everton
08) Newcastle United
09) Southampton
10) West Ham United
11) Stoke City
12) Swansea City
13) West Bromwich Albion
14) Crystal Palace
15) Leicester City
16) Watford
17) Norwich City
18) Sunderland
19) Aston Villa
20) Bournemouth

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Post by theadore » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:20 pm

1 Chelsea
2 Arsenal
3 Man United
4 Man City
5 Liverpool
6 Tottenham
7 Everton
8 Swansea
9 Southampton
10 Aston Villa
11 Newcastle
12 Stoke
13 West Ham
14 West Brom
15 Crystal Palace
16 Sunderland
17 Norwich
18 Leicester
19 Bournemouth
20 Watford

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Post by daib0 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:36 pm

Well guys, I am about to go on holidays, high up in the Spanish Pyrenees, won’t have too much access in a fortnight, but I’ll be back strongly plugging this in the last week before the season kicks off. In the meanwhile, keep entries coming in and tell your pals!

Latest Stats

Board Entry Counts at the moment – 147 entries received as of 8.30 pm today British Time. Everything safely noted down ….

some 29 forums participating so far, 16 forums now with a minimum 5 necessary, and ages to kick-off yet!

Board Entry Counts per forum at the moment, bold type have minimum already
14 – WFC Forums – Watford
12 - Foxes Talk – Leicester City
11 – Back Henry Street – Blackpool
10 - Baggies Zone – West Bromwich Albion
9 - Wolves Forum – Wolverhampton Wanderers
8 - Toon Forum – Newcastle United
7 - Talk of the Tarn – Barnsley
7 - Cardiff City Fans Forum – Cardiff
7 – Royals Rendezvous – Reading
7 - Claret and Banter – Bradford City
6 – DCFC Fans – Derby County
6 - LUFC Talk – Leeds United
5 - Extreme Football Forum – all teams
5 – North Stand Chat – Brighton
5 - Rovers Talk – Blackburn Rovers
5 – Not 606 Norwich Board – Norwich City


4 - The Holmesdale – Crystal Palace
4 – Viking Chat – Doncaster
4 - Tudor Talk – Hemel Hempstead
4 - Not 606 QPR Board – Queens Park Rangers
3 - The Posh Forum – Peterborough United
3 - Joys and Sorrows – Birmingham City
3 - Toffee Talk – Everton
2 - Not 606 Hull Board – Hull City
2 - MCFC Fans – Manchester City
2 – CourtOffside – AFC Bournemouth
1 - The Longside – Burnley
1 - Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site – Spurs
1 - This Northern Soul – Wigan Athletic
1 - Cardiff City On-Line – Cardiff

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Post by daib0 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:24 pm

Latest Stats

Board Entry Counts at the moment – 225 entries received in all as of today. Everything safely noted down ….

Board Entry Counts per forum at the moment, bold type – that’s 23 team forums already - have the minimum to take part!
18 - WFC Forums - Watford
15 - The Holmesdale - Crystal Palace
14- Wolves Forum - Wolverhampton Wanderers
13 - Foxes Talk - Leicester City
12 - Toon Forum - Newcastle United
11 - Back Henry Street - Blackpool
10 - Baggies Zone - West Bromwich Albion
10 - Talk of the Tarn - Barnsley
10 - Royals Rendezvous - Reading
9 - Not 606 QPR Board - Queens Park Rangers
7 - Cardiff City On-Line - Cardiff
7 - Cardiff City Fans Forum - Cardiff
7 - Claret and Banter - Bradford City
7 - DCFC Fans - Derby County
7 - Toffee Talk - Everton
6 - LUFC Talk - Leeds United
6 - Extreme Football Forum - all teams
6 - Not 606 Norwich Board - Norwich City
5 - North Stand Chat - Brighton
5 - Rovers Talk - Blackburn Rovers
5 - Joys and Sorrows - Birmingham City
5 – CourtOffside - AFC Bournemouth
5 - The Longside - Burnley
5 - Viking Chat - Doncaster

Next ones almost there …

4 - Tudor Talk - Hemel Hempstead
4 - The Posh Forum - Peterborough United
3 - Friends of Fulham – Fulham
3 - MCFC Fans - Manchester City
2 - Not 606 Hull Board - Hull City
2 - Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site - Spurs
1 - This Northern Soul - Wigan Athletic
1 - Arsenal Fan Forum

And I’ve still got to approach a half-dozen forums yet for the first time!

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Post by SheepShagginRover » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:14 pm

You list this forum as Rovers Talk, Rover Stalk may be preferable.

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