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Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Darth Rover » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:17 pm

The hand of God as prevailed again. This time though it's not from a cheating Argentinian but a cheating Frenchman. France has qualified for the world cup by the hand of Henry. Should the game be played again which won't happen of course because the guy who would decide that is French... Michel Plattini.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:37 pm

It could work the other way - Platini may feel his position will be compromised if he's accused of bias towards his home nation. But there's no precedent that I'm aware of for the game being replayed. And to me it's just one of those things, the ref can't give fouls just because the defending side have seen something he couldn't. It's hardly up there with Maradona's handball - the defender made a mistake in leaving the ball, and I'd be surprised if Henry could think quickly enough to plan to use his arm to stop it. I suspect most refs would still have given a freekick for it, but it is at their discretion what constitutes a handball, so Henry did what any other player would do and played on. You take those things if you win, complain if you lose.

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Post by Ethiaa » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:44 pm

Rover the Top wrote:I'd be surprised if Henry could think quickly enough to plan to use his arm to stop it.
Is that the first time he handballs it or the second? The second one with his fingers looks very deliberate to hook it back towards him.

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Post by Rover the Top » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:09 pm

Just how many frames per second do you have to see it at to spot this hooking back? The whole thing happened too quickly for me to be 100% certain he meant it. That's all I'm saying. In an ideal world, all players would make the ref's job easy by owning up if they felt they'd committed a foul. But that doesn't happen, I'm sure all the Irish players would have kept quiet too if they'd got away with a similar incident. Richard Dunne was moaning at Ewood a few weeks ago because he was penalised for blocking a shot by waving his arms above his head - so I think it's safe to say he wouldn't own up if the ref didn't blow the whistle when he handballed.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by theadore » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:13 pm

To suggest replaying the game is stupid... but its unfortunate for the Irish to go out that way.

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Post by Ethiaa » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:17 pm

Rover the Top wrote:Just how many frames per second do you have to see it at to spot this hooking back? The whole thing happened too quickly for me to be 100% certain he meant it. That's all I'm saying.
You can't be 100% certain that any touch of a football is intended. However, it appears so in the standard slow motion replay as you see his hand move to the ball, not the other way around. These things do indeed happen though, that's football.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:27 pm

Good, glad we agree.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by mrblackbat » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:54 pm

Once a player has handballed, even if accidentally, they usually pull their arm away....

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Darth Rover » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:20 pm

Bad luck on the Irish to go out of the world cup like that. England have suffered in similar circumstances. I think the French themselves have had bad luck in the world cup in the 90's. So maybe you win some you lose some. Why don't the Germans have bad luck !!! :-?

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:31 pm

Some of them do, did you never see Rudi Voller's hair?

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Post by Ethiaa » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:51 pm

Rover the Top wrote:Some of them do, did you never see Rudi Voller's hair?
He used that to hide his blatant handballs. Well, they weren't blatant because you couldn't see for his hair. But you know what I mean.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:53 pm

It was also handy for catching spittle in.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Darth Rover » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:12 pm

Rover the Top wrote:Some of them do, did you never see Rudi Voller's hair?
Yes i did..Wasn't it a cross between a keegan perm and a mullet?....

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by SheepShagginRover » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:23 pm

The phrase "luck of the Irish" seems rather ironic now.

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Re: Thierry Henry Cheat?

Post by Ethiaa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:35 pm

Thierry now says fairest solution is to replay the game.

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