England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Tue May 25, 2010 1:33 pm

I wouldn't have said so. Berbatov started in 18 games and Owen started 4 of Rooney's 32 league games for them.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by mrblackbat » Tue May 25, 2010 2:49 pm

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roverzealous wrote:Wouldn't Lampard and Gerrard in the center leave us weak defensively?
Not if Capello instills some discipline into them. Also, Gerrard started his International career as the deeper partner alongside Scholes, and looked very assured, so no reason he couldn't do the same alongside Lampard.

Hmm, I'm suddenly having de ja vu from four years ago....
I'm sure I was the only one advocating that Lampard/Gerrard would work under a competent manager....
I'm pretty sure I always said that Gerrard playing more of an anchor role would work, as long as he was told that was what he was doing, and stuck to it.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Tue May 25, 2010 2:56 pm

I remember you both saying you think they could fit in the same team, you just disagreed on how it would work. But is Gerrard going to do a better job in an unfamiliar holding midfielder than Gareth Barry, who's used to playing there?

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by mrblackbat » Tue May 25, 2010 3:09 pm

Is Barry fit? How unfamiliar is the role for Gerrard, considering he used to do it when he played next to Scholes for England?

I think he'd definitely be able to do it, it's more a case of whether he will do it - in that for me he's a bit too big for his boots these days and will refuse to play that role because he wants to get forward and score.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Tue May 25, 2010 3:38 pm

mrblackbat wrote:Is Barry fit? How unfamiliar is the role for Gerrard, considering he used to do it when he played next to Scholes for England?
How long ago was that? Gerrard has been playing as an attacking midfielder for Liverpool for years now, I'd be surprised if he could slot in as a holding midfielder and be better than someone who plays that role every week. Just like I don't see the advantage in playing him out left when we have good players who play out wide every week. His best role is doing the same things that Lampard is good at, I see it as a luxury that we have such good cover in that position, rather than we need to find room for both of them in the same team.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by mrblackbat » Tue May 25, 2010 3:45 pm

Hmm, probably eight years ago now.

It's not going to happen, but I'd like to have seen him being used that way, because whilst he may not be doing it at club level, he can do it, and is a better player than Barry is.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Tue May 25, 2010 3:49 pm

He's a better player than Glen Johnson, too - maybe the answer is to get him to fill the problem right back slot? :idea:

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by mrblackbat » Tue May 25, 2010 4:11 pm

Rover the Top wrote:He's a better player than Glen Johnson, too - maybe the answer is to get him to fill the problem right back slot? :idea:
Go for it, Johnson's iffy.

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by roverzealous » Wed May 26, 2010 8:34 am

Adam Johnson's England Debut Cost Manchester City £200,000 Per Minute

They have to pay Boro £1m now, it's a shame he didn't play the full 90. :lol:

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Wed May 26, 2010 8:40 am

I'm hoping you realise the fee was £1m no matter how many minutes he played... in which case it's a shame he didn't come on for the last 10 seconds... :D

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Gibbon » Wed May 26, 2010 9:16 am

I'm sure they have that much in the coffee machine. Good for Boro though. :)

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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by roverzealous » Wed May 26, 2010 9:18 am

Rover the Top wrote:I'm hoping you realise the fee was £1m no matter how many minutes he played...
Nope, I thought if he'd have played 90 minutes it would have cost City £18m. :oops:

I had this vision of Gordon Strachan staring at the corner of the screen, counting the money up. :lol:
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Re: England v Mexico, 24/05/2010, 20:00

Post by Rover the Top » Wed May 26, 2010 9:25 am

Gibbon wrote:I'm sure they have that much in the coffee machine.
Really? Do you know where this coffee machine is situated? I reckon I've watched enough Hollywood films to plan a successful heist... :scratch:

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