Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:49 pm

Savory wrote:we've tried to have coaches come in and implement different tactics, unfortunately the players at our disposal have just been too thick to carry out the intsructions.
:lol: Same could be said about Rovers... :yeahright:

I'm not sure it's strictly true that England have failed to follow instructions, after all, haven't we won the vast majority of games under Capello? There's been no problem in getting the results we need against obviously weaker opponents. But too many bland, flat performances, and nothing extra when we play teams at the same or better level. We've finally moved on from putting Gerrard out of position just to get him and Lampard in the same team (or has one of them just been out injured lately?) But I do wonder if we've had the right characters to fire up the players, playing for England seems to have become a chore rather than an honour.

On that note, has Paul Robinson come out of international retirement yet?

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Savory » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:54 pm

werent the qualifiers easy and the games where we beat good teams, unimportant?

indeed i think it has become a chore, or it looks likes it has, and harry, or someone british could only lift the players and restore some sort of much needed pride in playing for their national team.

very good point about robbo too, scholes and others may even reconsider :lol:

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Rover Ryan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:00 pm

Savory wrote:The side needs a lift, even if Harry can come in on a part time basis, we've tried to have coaches come in and implement different tactics, unfortunately the players at our disposal have just been too thick to carry out the intsructions. let's get Harry in, let them do whatever the fuck they want on the pitch and see where it gets us.
They did whatever the fuck they wanted in the last world cup and we got spanked by Germany :oops:

I'd give the job to Pearce... he knows the players and IMO is the obvious choice. Maybe bring Harry in also just for the summer and have them work together. Jose as England manager sounds so far fetched it just might happen :yeahright:

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Joe » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:10 pm

Rover the Moon wrote:
Rover the Top wrote: Would he want to manage England anyway? He's not made his reputation by doing great things with underdogs...
Exactly. The current crop of England players are not up to much internationally and the same can probably be said about the next crop

The whole system in this country needs a overhaul and until the majority of players at our top clubs are english we will continue to be makeweights
He won the Champions League with Porto (and Inter, who you'd probably have got away with calling underdogs at the start of 2009/2010).

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Post by Savory » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:10 pm

nah, we just got spanked by the better side :P

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Post by Rover Ryan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:16 pm

Savory wrote:nah, we just got spanked by the better side :P
without a doubt!! I seem to remember John Terry playing upfront though :doh:

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Post by Savory » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:17 pm

Slightly irrelevant but Terry :mygod:

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Post by Rover Ryan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:20 pm

Was a nice impression of a seal there :D

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:29 pm

Joe wrote:
Rover the Moon wrote:
Rover the Top wrote: Would he want to manage England anyway? He's not made his reputation by doing great things with underdogs...
Exactly. The current crop of England players are not up to much internationally and the same can probably be said about the next crop

The whole system in this country needs a overhaul and until the majority of players at our top clubs are english we will continue to be makeweights
He won the Champions League with Porto (and Inter, who you'd probably have got away with calling underdogs at the start of 2009/2010).
Porto had finished 2nd in Portugal the season before he took over, Inter were the reigning Italian champions. Big teams with a pedigree who he got to go that extra step. Getting England to overcome the likes of the Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Spain, will be much harder, not least because you can't change the pool of players you have to work with.

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Joe » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:06 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Joe wrote:
Rover the Moon wrote: Exactly. The current crop of England players are not up to much internationally and the same can probably be said about the next crop

The whole system in this country needs a overhaul and until the majority of players at our top clubs are english we will continue to be makeweights
He won the Champions League with Porto (and Inter, who you'd probably have got away with calling underdogs at the start of 2009/2010).
Porto had finished 2nd in Portugal the season before he took over, Inter were the reigning Italian champions. Big teams with a pedigree who he got to go that extra step. Getting England to overcome the likes of the Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Spain, will be much harder, not least because you can't change the pool of players you have to work with.
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You trying to say Porto weren't underdogs for the Champions League?

I'd say his achievements with Porto were greater than the possible achievement of anyone coming in and winning the Euro's with England.

And I'd even go as far as to say he was almost under the same inability to "change the pool of players he had to work with" restriction. Not many foreigners move to Portugal. And I don't think he made many signings in general.

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:50 pm

Joe wrote::o
You trying to say Porto weren't underdogs for the Champions League?
No, it was a surprise they went as far as winning that particular tournament. But that's the exception, his reputation isn't based solely on that one result. And his success in the Portuguese league, with Chelsea, in Italy and whatever he does with Real Madrid has been achieved from a position of strength. So, is he going to now decide to risk adding a failure to his CV by taking on the England job short term, when it's plainly obvious they're far from being the strongest side out there? Maybe he's arrogant enough to believe he can achieve anything. But I think he's been smart enough to be careful about which jobs to take.

Would anyone have Ferguson as manager, and give him chance to earn that title? :yeahright:

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Dan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:48 pm

Let's get Holloway in, drop all the ageing "stars" like Gerrard, Lampard and Ferdinand who just expect to walk into the team regardless, pick the best English players we've got based on their ability and form this season (the ones who would be proud to represent their country rather than see it as an inconvenience) and see what happens

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Savory » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:52 pm

Dan wrote:Let's get Holloway in
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Post by Dan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:56 pm

Savory wrote:
Dan wrote:Let's get Holloway in
:o
Really? He's motivational, players get behind him and each other, and his teams seem to have a real sense of 'togetherness'. Something England have been lacking for a long time.

Plus the post match interviews would be amusing.

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Re: Capello resigns. Who will lead England in Euro 2012?

Post by Savory » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:01 pm

not sure the current players would be too happy, never mind the fans :D

if i could choose or put money on it, it'd defo be Redknapp... or Hiddink or Pearce as caretaker managers.

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