England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

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well?

England win
3
50%
Draw
1
17%
Netherlands win
2
33%
 
Total votes: 6

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Savory » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 pm

anytime :P

enjoy watching captain parker and the england team 8-)

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:34 pm

Good start!!

I forgot how dirty the Dutch are :o

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Gibbon » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:55 pm

I'm still glad I'm not watching it. And the Dutch were a bunch of twats in that last World cup if I remember rightly.

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:58 pm

How come? And yeah especially in the final!!

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Gibbon » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:00 pm

I just can't get past my extreme contempt for most of England's players. They really are a shower of twats these days.

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:08 pm

yeah I know what you mean but the line-up tonight has been refreshing. playing well, been the better team!!

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Gibbon » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:09 pm

Ollie Board wrote:yeah I know what you mean but the line-up tonight has been refreshing. playing well, been the better team!!
Night Ollie, don't play with the crap troll for too long. ;)

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:20 pm

Gibbon wrote:
Ollie Board wrote:yeah I know what you mean but the line-up tonight has been refreshing. playing well, been the better team!!
Night Ollie, don't play with the crap troll for too long. ;)
:lol: G'night Monkey Man :)

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Joe » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:37 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Savory wrote:you think?

football writers player of the year last year, and voted England Player of the Year by fans, and he's had a great season so far with spurs, perfect choice imo
The fact he's been given those awards is why I say he's the most over-rated. :lol: His contribution last season was so great his team were the only ones relegated before the last day. God knows why the journalists thought he was worthy of more recognition than a whole host of players who actually achieved something. Maybe they'll give their award to Paul Robinson this year if we get relegated...

But, it's a trait of the English game that midfielders with no forward vision and who give away needless fouls get more credit than those who have skill on the ball. There's always a need for a ball winner, but if that's all they've got they're the weakest player in the team by default.
Spot on. He's like a Gareth Barry version 2.0. Which isn't much of an upgrade on version 1.0.

I think if Jones can continue to impress in the holding midfielder role, he will be perfect to play alongside Wilshire (who I think is the type of ball-winner that RTT is alluding to) in the future. With the likes of Sturridge, Johnson, Walcott and Chamberlain offering more attacking threats.

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Savory » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:48 pm

Joe wrote: Spot on. He's like a Gareth Barry version 2.0. Which isn't much of an upgrade on version 1.0.
:lol: haters gonna hate...

he's nothin like barry and did well tonight.

what a final 10 mins though :hyper:

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:56 pm

Pleased with the performance, just turned off for 90 seconds that cost us. A draw wouldve been the fair scoreline but it's only a freindly!!

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Savory » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:01 pm

i dreamt cahill scored the other night, so i put £2.50 to score 1st and 50p on to score anytime... its paid for my takeaway tonight anyway :lol:

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:27 pm

Joe wrote: Spot on. He's like a Gareth Barry version 2.0. Which isn't much of an upgrade on version 1.0.
At least Barry looks to get the ball forward to other players. I counted 3 forward passes from Parker in the first half yesterday. All of them were short to Barry, all within our own half. Every other one was played square or backwards under no pressure to the nearest unmarked defender. Then I saw some stats after the game celebrating his pass completion rate. :doh:

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Savory » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:34 pm

What did you want him to do exactly? :?

He makes simple passes and doesnt give the ball away, i thought he performed his role really well and worked well alongside Barry in the centre, he certainly looked like the best player in an England shirt last night, some of the tackles and blocks he put in too were class.

Another case of haters gonna hate here :P

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Re: England V Netherlands, Wed 29 Feb, 19.45

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:57 pm

I'd have thought it was obvious from what I'd already said: pass forwards, create openings, get the team pushing up the field. :doh: It's easy not to give the ball away if all you do is make 5 yard back-passes all game, every player on the field could have done that. The problem is, it won't win you a game, won't even get your team over the halfway line. The aim of the game is not to lose possession, it's to score goals. To do that you have to take chances, get the ball forward and risk the other team making a tackle or interception. To be fair to Parker, he did make a couple of good tackles early on, but I stand by what I said before the game as per his lack of vision.

And Sturridge was probably the best player for England.

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