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England Squad

Post by theadore » Wed May 16, 2012 1:38 pm

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)

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Re: England Squad

Post by theadore » Wed May 16, 2012 1:40 pm

Problem with the England Squad (other than the obvious) is they've gone for balance over a plan B.

players like Milner who can play anywhere might offer you better cover, but you aren't actually expecting to play them. Someone who might actually have an impact when called upon like Lennon would be a much better bet.

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Re: England Squad

Post by Ethiaa » Wed May 16, 2012 1:43 pm

theadore wrote:Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)
Hardly a mountain of goals there is there. Only really Oxtail-Chamberpot who is a game changer there - and hardly one who is certain to deliver.

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Re: England Squad

Post by theadore » Wed May 16, 2012 1:51 pm

Wondering how the following would compare:

Foster

Richards, Jageilka, Ferdinand, Gibbs

Lennon, Scholes, Carrick, Johnson

Crouch, Sturridge


Pretty well I think.

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Re: England Squad

Post by Ethiaa » Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 pm

Going for the weakest midfield in the the tournament award?

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Re: England Squad

Post by Rover the Top » Wed May 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Ethiaa wrote: Hardly a mountain of goals there is there.
12 from 27 starts and 12 sub appearances from Welbeck. 35 from 41 starts and 2 sub appearances for Rooney. 17 from 21 starts and 17 sub appearances for Defoe. They're all good figures. Carroll is the questionable choice. Although it was a surprise to me that he's netted 9 times this season. I only remember him scoring once against us?

The defence looks good apart from I wouldn't have had Tewwy. Midfield is pretty uninspiring, though.

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Re: England Squad

Post by Rover Ryan » Wed May 16, 2012 2:19 pm

I'd be happy with that if he'd taken Johnson instead of the over-rated Downing. Glad he's left Rio out but shame he's included Terry... hopefully he's just for back-up!!
Shocked he's left Richards out :shrug:

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Post by Ethiaa » Wed May 16, 2012 2:28 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Ethiaa wrote: Hardly a mountain of goals there is there.
12 from 27 starts and 12 sub appearances from Welbeck. 35 from 41 starts and 2 sub appearances for Rooney. 17 from 21 starts and 17 sub appearances for Defoe. They're all good figures. Carroll is the questionable choice. Although it was a surprise to me that he's netted 9 times this season. I only remember him scoring once against us?

The defence looks good apart from I wouldn't have had Tewwy. Midfield is pretty uninspiring, though.
Sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was talking about International football. No England strikers currently strike fear into the hearts of the opposition unfortunately. They aren't appalling but neither are you thinking that scoring isn't going to be the problem.

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Re: England Squad

Post by theadore » Wed May 16, 2012 2:33 pm

Ollie Board wrote:I'd be happy with that if he'd taken Johnson instead of the over-rated Downing. Glad he's left Rio out but shame he's included Terry... hopefully he's just for back-up!!
Shocked he's left Richards out :shrug:
with the baggage that comes with Terry these days, I can't see him being in the squad if he isn't starting.

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Re: England Squad

Post by Rover the Top » Wed May 16, 2012 2:43 pm

I think the problem is still with the midfield, they don't create opportunities for the strikers. If strikers can score goals against PL defences, they should be able to against international defences. Often they're coming up against the same players. But then how often have England set up in the last 10 years to play to the strengths of Rooney or Defoe or Bent or Owen? Heskey kept getting picked because of what he could do at the halfway line rather than the opposition's penalty area. Bloody Italian-minded managers...

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Re: England Squad

Post by -BARON-23- » Wed May 16, 2012 8:26 pm

How on earth has Johnson got in ahead of Richards?

Both Barry and Milner? Wow well erm that's great :doh:

Mr no goals and assists this season Downing in the team along with injured all season Gerrard too :doh:

When will a manager pick a team on merit rather than his fucking name

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Re: England Squad

Post by Joe » Wed May 16, 2012 9:17 pm

Where's Carrick and why's nobody talking about him? Was Scholes approached?

Nice to see Oxlain-Chamberlain in there. I think him and Theo provide some sort of a plan B to the boring strategy we'll probably employ.

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Re: England Squad

Post by dwayne cage » Wed May 16, 2012 9:27 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA That England squad will get torn apart. Well done Roy!

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Re: England Squad

Post by -BARON-23- » Wed May 16, 2012 9:32 pm

Joe wrote:Where's Carrick and why's nobody talking about him? Was Scholes approached?

Nice to see Oxlain-Chamberlain in there. I think him and Theo provide some sort of a plan B to the boring strategy we'll probably employ.
Or Leon Brittain, Nathan Dyer etc

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Re: England Squad

Post by theadore » Thu May 17, 2012 12:07 am

Joe wrote:Where's Carrick and why's nobody talking about him? Was Scholes approached?

Nice to see Oxlain-Chamberlain in there. I think him and Theo provide some sort of a plan B to the boring strategy we'll probably employ.
For englands sake I hope they're Plan A

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