Brexit....or in.

There must be more to life than football?

Which way would you vote

Remain and voted remain the first time
7
70%
Leave and voted leave the first time
2
20%
Remain but voted leave the first time
0
No votes
Leave but voted remain the first time
1
10%
Can't be arsed
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 10

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Re: Brexit....or in.

Post by Rover the Top » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:25 pm

It's quite ironic that the "racists" voted to open us up to the world and treat all immigrants equally, the "non-racists" opted to try and make history's colonial powers great again and give preferential treatment to citizens from mostly white European nations. :yeahright:

I see we're not going to have to pay for visas to go on our jollies.

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Post by mrblackbat » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:02 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:29 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:04 pm
Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm
...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?
Is some of the £13.8 million going to be used to buy ships? :hyper:
Didn’t the P&O Spirit of Britain cost £157 million? ;)
Is the only investment in this company from the Government?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47182361

Scrapped after Irish investment pulled.

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Post by Gibbon » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:03 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:00 pm
And if they don't they're unlikely to receive any cash what with them not being able to fulfill their contract.

All very boring really.
Aaaaaaand inevitably... link

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Post by Gibbon » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:03 am

Jinx!

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Post by Rover the Top » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:37 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:46 am
And now.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47206303
Now that they mention it, they didn't tell me either - I don't have any ships, where was my contract?

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:04 am

Lost in the post.

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Post by Gibbon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:20 am

When the Department for Transport announced the contracts in December, in documents outlining the agreements it stated that an "unforeseeable" situation of "extreme urgency" meant there was no time for the contracts to be put out to tender - the standard practice for public procurements.
:lol:

Plenty of time for a company with no ships and no history of shipping freight to start from scratch though. :yeahright:

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Post by Rover the Top » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:33 pm

https://euobserver.com/tickers/144147
The European Ombudsman confirmed on Monday it upheld its verdict that the promotion of Martin Selmayr to EU Commission secretary-general had been a case of "maladministration". The ombudsman called it "highly regrettable" the commission, led by Jean-Claude Juncker, chose not to change the appointment procedure, as the ombudsman recommended. "The ombudsman looks forward to implementation by the next commission," it said. The commission had disagreed with the initial verdict.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:38 pm

Gibbon wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:20 am
When the Department for Transport announced the contracts in December, in documents outlining the agreements it stated that an "unforeseeable" situation of "extreme urgency" meant there was no time for the contracts to be put out to tender - the standard practice for public procurements.
:lol:

Plenty of time for a company with no ships and no history of shipping freight to start from scratch though. :yeahright:
But one that had backing, at the time of the contract being awarded, by an experienced shipping company with ships.

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Post by Gibbon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:31 pm

mrblackbat wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:38 pm

But one that had backing, at the time of the contract being awarded, by an experienced shipping company with ships.
linky.
We never had an agreement with Seaborne, so when it was reported that we were a backer, that was not the case.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pm

Hah!

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Post by Rover the Top » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:32 am

Hey blackbat, have you seen the news today?



87% of imports will be tariff free in a no-deal situation, up from 80% under EU regulations

It's just a shame it's going to be academic after the vote tonight... :roll:

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Post by mrblackbat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 am

I had, some reason my post didn't go up. Estimated cost of 3.4 billion to the treasury. Was also listening to a very interesting set of interviews with Northern Irish beef farmers around the changes to tariffs but that due to the NI border being left open it's a back door for importing protected good anyway; whilst their goods will become uncompetitive in their main market: ROI.

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Post by Rover the Top » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:42 pm

Well, the proposal for the Irish border is another issue, seems nonsensical and against WTO rules at face value. It perhaps epitomises May's weakness in negotiation that she didn't point out it's a problem for Ireland and the EU to reach a compromise on - from the UK's perspective, we won't be governed by any rules saying our relationship with Ireland has to change. Someone who believed in leaving would have used it to our advantage.


As for the cost, it's considerably less than EU membership, but then I suppose that gives people another chance to rant about the number on the bus being wrong... :yeahright:

Another thought that occurred to me, given the cost of living in the UK, there's something odd if demand for our exports in general is highly elastic based on price. If NI farmers don't feel they can compete with Irish imports if they are allowed tariff free, how do they manage at the moment? It's strange that an argument that was against being part of the EEC/EU is now being turned into an argument against leaving, ie lack of protection for domestic producers.

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