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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:22 am

Ethiaa wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 pm
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Ethiaa wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:58 pm
I think you'll find that old people have had the biggest effect on the NHS.
I thought it was sick people.
Oddly enough there is a causation between the two
But not exclusivity...

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:24 am

Well, duh

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:37 pm

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Stopping people getting sick in the first place is a good thing ;)
If that were the thing I was referring to....

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:47 am

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Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:20 pm
Corbyn rebuttal of anti-semitic claims, which seem to stack up. And as blackbat says, anti-semitism is an easy thing to level against any of the pro-palestine lobby.

George Galloway has been tarred for years with such allegations, although I'm less convinced by his denials than Corbyn's.
Well it's looking like a case of no smoke without fire now. The evidence has continued to stack up. He's either anti-semitic or has such poor judgement in who he aligns himself with he may as well be anti-semitic. Strangely he still has followers defending him as though facts are smears. :shrug:

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am

Like the Israeli Times you mean? :yeahright:

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:37 am

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Like the Israeli Times you mean? :yeahright:
No. Not sure what exactly you're referring to, but from what I've found online they appear to be reporting the facts about the mural story. I was thinking more of stuff like this:

https://skwawkbox.org/2018/03/24/the-po ... k-comment/

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/statu ... 0500333568

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:44 am

I mean there are independent Jewish reporters, in Israel and the UK, saying it's all a load of hyperbolic tosh. But that doesn't make for sensationalist news.

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Re: General Election

Post by theadore » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:55 am

Basically this...
FWIW... I find it surprising but not incredulous that Corbyn didn't get the gravity of the mural when he commented... the response was probably not immediate or strong enough in its condemnation. I find the digging through facebook groups fairly irrelevant... how many brexit campaigners will have joined a group or shared a post by someone who makes racist posts online... the post above about it being difficult to be overtly pro-palestine and not find yourself alongside overtly anti-israeli and even anti-semitic people rings true.

Also - This...
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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:57 am

Basically that.

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:22 pm

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I mean there are independent Jewish reporters, in Israel and the UK, saying it's all a load of hyperbolic tosh. But that doesn't make for sensationalist news.
I'm not really sure why you need to put "independent" there, but I won't put words in your mouth... There was an anti-semitic mural, and he did make a comment in support of the artist. Maybe you take his explanation at face value, maybe you don't think it's that big a deal, but it's not a trumped up story to smear him. The way seemingly otherwise intelligent people react as though he is beyond reproach is dangerous.

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:32 pm

Independent - not anything to do with Labour or indeed UK politics. I'm sure they can be accused of being in some shady cabal trying to bring down the right-thinking good people of the home counties though :D

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:40 pm

theadore wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:55 am
Basically this...
So Labour does have a problem but no one should mention it? :yeahright:

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:55 pm

Ethiaa wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:32 pm
Independent - not anything to do with Labour or indeed UK politics. I'm sure they can be accused of being in some shady cabal trying to bring down the right-thinking good people of the home counties though :D
And what does that imply about those who are speaking out about it? There's some independent people who don't speak out about May, there's some independent people who don't speak out about Trump, there's some independent people who don't speak out about Putin. Should we just ignore all warning signs and dismiss everything as sensationalist news?

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:12 pm

It doesn't imply anything at all unless you are trying to throw shit around :shrug:

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Re: General Election

Post by theadore » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:17 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:40 pm
theadore wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:55 am
Basically this...
So Labour does have a problem but no one should mention it? :yeahright:
Not exactly sure where 'Loudly denounced' = 'don't mention it'

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