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Post by Gibbon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:30 am

I know all that too. And if you can point me towards a respected opinion that suggests that those things will almost certainly happen within the next 100 years, I'd probably feel a bit more worried about them.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:36 am

My point is that they are most likely going to happen; the climate stuff isn't necessarily going to happen, not enough data on that.

Also, at some point, there will be a large enough star going supernova to emit a GRB in our galaxy, which will irradiate us all.

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Post by Gibbon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:08 pm

They ARE more likely to happen - but most of the articles predict them to happen using scales with increments of 10,000 years or more. The case in question postulates an occurrence in the next century.

It's the immediacy of the theoretical event that's concerning if you put any weight in his theory.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:32 pm

Yes, but supernovas statistically occur once every a hundred years in a galaxy, and this galaxy is drastically overdue with the last occurring in the 1700s. Considering that WR104 is thought to be pointing roughly in our direction, should that be the star to go boom then we're in trouble.

In addition, looking at the activity going on with the volcanos around Lake Toba this month, then it could be that the supervolcano there is gearing up ready to blow.

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Post by Gibbon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:46 pm

Interesting. How can a star point in a specific direction? But anyway WR104 is a prime example of cosmic scale predictions, from what I remember it could go boom anytime in the next 500,000 years.

Also, from a quick google of Toba;
Studies showed that Mount Toba has erupted four times in the past - 1.2 million years ago, at 840,000 years ago, 500,000 years ago and then again around 74,000 years ago.
So if it erupted 50,000 years from now, it'd still be too soon if you look at the average length of it's dormant periods. Not to say it won't of course. :D

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:07 pm

Gibbon wrote:Interesting. How can a star point in a specific direction? But anyway WR104 is a prime example of cosmic scale predictions, from what I remember it could go boom anytime in the next 500,000 years.

Also, from a quick google of Toba;
Studies showed that Mount Toba has erupted four times in the past - 1.2 million years ago, at 840,000 years ago, 500,000 years ago and then again around 74,000 years ago.
So if it erupted 50,000 years from now, it'd still be too soon if you look at the average length of it's dormant periods. Not to say it won't of course. :D
Yes, but if you look at the average period for any supervolcano to erupt, then one is about due. There have also been studies recently that suggest that the time taken for a supervolcano to grow is much smaller than originally thought:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18269593

A GRB is emitted along the axis of a star's rotation. Most sources appear to believe that the axis of WR104 is pointing within 15 degrees of our location.

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Post by Gibbon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:14 pm

Fair enough on the GRB emission angle, I didn't know that. :)
Although, actually 15 degrees is a huge amount at that distance.

And I think the Yellowstone volcano is past due. Ah well.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:39 pm

Gibbon wrote:Fair enough on the GRB emission angle, I didn't know that. :)
Although, actually 15 degrees is a huge amount at that distance.

And I think the Yellowstone volcano is past due. Ah well.
Most axes are wobbly though, so the 15 degrees variance could well end up being beamed right at us.

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Post by Gibbon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:48 pm

Hurray! :hyper:

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:50 pm

Let's just hope Betelgeuse goes pop first. At least we'll get a nice light show then! :hyper:

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:18 pm

:lol:

Though the best bit is the guy on the comments pointing out that Bono is Irish.... :D

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Post by Gibbon » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:05 am

So replacing the ice caps with giant floating solar panels will solve our energy crisis and reduce global warming. Bish bosh.

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