What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:02 pm

Just because you have a monopoly, that doesn't mean you can't have charitable aims and outcomes surely. It just describes the control over the area in question, not the aims or outcomes that the organisation has.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:09 pm

Ethiaa wrote:Just because you have a monopoly, that doesn't mean you can't have charitable aims and outcomes surely. It just describes the control over the area in question, not the aims or outcomes that the organisation has.
I guess that all depends on how pernickity you get with the definition:- Monopoly - Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service.

The implications are almost always skewed towards an intention of maximising profits at the expense of a quality product or service.

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:20 pm

Only when it's a private company with the monopoly. As I said earlier, outside of that environment there are different factors in play. Systembolaget for example.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:30 pm

Systembolaget isn't a true monopoly, however; you can import as much booze as you like for personal use. Or go to a "restaurant" and get slaughtered there.

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Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:34 pm

mrblackbat wrote:Systembolaget isn't a true monopoly, however; you can import as much booze as you like for personal use. Or go to a "restaurant" and get slaughtered there.
You can do your own research into cancer in your bedroom too.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:35 pm

Ethiaa wrote:
mrblackbat wrote:Systembolaget isn't a true monopoly, however; you can import as much booze as you like for personal use. Or go to a "restaurant" and get slaughtered there.
You can do your own research into cancer in your bedroom too.
Right then......

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:39 pm

Perhaps you should start distributing fund raising leaflets to expand your research facility into the kitchen

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:41 pm

:paranoid:

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:01 pm

Ethiaa wrote:
Rover the Top wrote:
Ethiaa wrote:It's a radically different "market" though and the forces at work are much more in line with the broader goals of a society beyond that of profit making.
On the contrary, the principles are the same. All you're doing is changing what the incentive is, from financial profit to social profit.
How is that contrary to anything I said?
It's not a "radically different" "market" in so far as the effects of the market forces are the same. All you're doing is redrawing the supply curve in line with your objectives.
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Rover the Top wrote: Whereas monopolies are characterised by their efficient use of money?
The goal of a monopoly should be radically different from the goal of a charity. I do realise that the word should is being used.
What about a monopolised charity (or charitable monopoly), which is what you're proposing?

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:12 pm

Rover the Top wrote:What about a monopolised charity (or charitable monopoly), which is what you're proposing?
Think we just did that.

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:17 pm

A market that isn't based solely on making money is radically different in my opinion :shrug:

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:21 pm

Ethiaa wrote:A market that isn't based solely on making money is radically different in my opinion :shrug:
It's arguably not a market.

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:35 pm

A market is just where things are exchanged - no requirement for money, or indeed parity in exchange.

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Gibbon » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:09 pm

mrblackbat wrote: The goal of monopoly should be radically different from the goal of a charity. I do realise that the word should is being used.
When I play, I just break the bank to buy Park Lane and Mayfair.

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Re: What will you do in 2014 to help children beat cancer?

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:48 pm

Fool!

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