Brexit....or in.

There must be more to life than football?

Which way would you vote

Remain and voted remain the first time
7
70%
Leave and voted leave the first time
2
20%
Remain but voted leave the first time
0
No votes
Leave but voted remain the first time
1
10%
Can't be arsed
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 10

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Re: Brexit....or in.

Post by Gibbon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm

...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?

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Post by mrblackbat » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:07 pm

Wouldn't be the worst government contract issued.

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Post by Gibbon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:10 pm

Does that make it any better? :lol:

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Post by mrblackbat » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:22 pm

It doesn't even rank close to the worst, when you start looking at the PFI stuff, for example.

The fact a startup has a website with obvious stock pages isn't new, happens all the time. That a cobtract has been awarded to a startup is actually a good thing, especially given the outrage at appointing the Danish and French for the other contracts.

Didn't Labour appoint a rail franchise who had no trains?

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Post by Rover the Top » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:38 pm

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:44 pm
Not much has happened with the economy so far, because there hasn't been any real change to it yet.

There's about to be though....
There's been plenty of change to the economy: exchange rate fluctuations, employment level movements, increased inflation and interest rate changes. All could be linked to the referendum result. It just hasn't led to the negative growth the remain campaigners were predicting. So now they're doubling down and moving the goalposts, saying disaster will now happen when we officially leave. But it's just a rehash of what was said about what would happen if we voted to leave. The fact that some things will work differently doesn't mean the economy is going to tank. As I said, those in power should be able to keep ticking things over. Whether they will is more down to their level of competency than whether a nation's economy can survive outside the EU.

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Post by Rover the Top » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:40 pm

Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm
...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?
Is some of the £13.8 million going to be used to buy ships? :hyper:

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Post by Gibbon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:04 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm
...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?
Is some of the £13.8 million going to be used to buy ships? :hyper:
Didn’t the P&O Spirit of Britain cost £157 million? ;)

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Post by mrblackbat » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:28 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:38 pm
mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:44 pm
Not much has happened with the economy so far, because there hasn't been any real change to it yet.

There's about to be though....
There's been plenty of change to the economy: exchange rate fluctuations, employment level movements, increased inflation and interest rate changes. All could be linked to the referendum result. It just hasn't led to the negative growth the remain campaigners were predicting. So now they're doubling down and moving the goalposts, saying disaster will now happen when we officially leave. But it's just a rehash of what was said about what would happen if we voted to leave. The fact that some things will work differently doesn't mean the economy is going to tank. As I said, those in power should be able to keep ticking things over. Whether they will is more down to their level of competency than whether a nation's economy can survive outside the EU.
They're all normal changes to the economy that occur regardless of leaving a customs union though. Inflation rises and falls, interest rates are adjusted. But there's been no actual change to the way in which we do business yet.

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Post by mrblackbat » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:29 pm

Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:04 pm
Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm
...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?
Is some of the £13.8 million going to be used to buy ships? :hyper:
Didn’t the P&O Spirit of Britain cost £157 million? ;)
Is the only investment in this company from the Government?

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Post by Gibbon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:42 pm

I saw it suggested that their recent filed accounts were a bit odd. Something about 0 income for the last 12 months, but 400k outgoing. Not sure if there’s any truth in it.

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Post by Rover the Top » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:33 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:28 pm

They're all normal changes to the economy that occur regardless of leaving a customs union though. Inflation rises and falls, interest rates are adjusted. But there's been no actual change to the way in which we do business yet.
So what, we're going to get a whole new range of economic indicators when we leave? Those "normal" changes are exactly what will be affected by exiting the EU. How they'll move and what the net effect will be is an unknown. Which makes it easy for anyone wanting to predict a bad outcome to make a model where everything is set to go to shit and then say we shouldn't leave. But there's certainly an element of "cry wolf" about it. There's more likely to be some counterbalancing reaction from market forces, the B of E or the Treasury that'll make it all feel like the Millenium Bug hysteria all over again to the average citizen. As you say, it all happens regardless of leaving a customs union.

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Post by Rover the Top » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:41 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:29 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:04 pm
Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Gibbon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:01 pm
...and? 13.8 million to a company who have no ships and their T&C’s copy and pasted from a fast food website?
Is some of the £13.8 million going to be used to buy ships? :hyper:
Didn’t the P&O Spirit of Britain cost £157 million? ;)
Is the only investment in this company from the Government?
Exactly. It makes for good negative press for the government, but common sense suggests it's a non story. Now if it's a case of "Government give ferry contract to company with no plan for running any ships", then that would be a problem...

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Post by Gibbon » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:37 pm

We shall see if they’re up and running by the April deadline I guess.

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Post by Rover the Top » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:11 pm

Gibbon wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:37 pm
We shall see if they’re up and running by the April deadline I guess.
It'll only get remembered if they aren't.

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Post by mrblackbat » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:00 pm

And if they don't they're unlikely to receive any cash what with them not being able to fulfill their contract.

All very boring really.

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