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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Wed May 23, 2018 6:44 am

Yes there's the possibility of contaminants caused from fracking. Scientists are generally undecided yet as to how bad they are. But the same applies to other energy sources: oil wells leak and cause major health issues, perhaps we should compare those to a drug that affected pregnancies to cause deformities.... :doh:

If you want to know a really greedy and dirty way of meeting energy needs, its the so called green EU energy coming from biomass: i.e. burning trees. But it's "renewable" so that's alright, right?

As for Corbyn, he's a principled anti nuclear campaigned who's committed to spending billions on a nuclear weapons system if elected. Some principles, huh! That'd be your NHS bill right there.... ;) and tact and diplomacy? He demonstrates neither of those qualities on a regular basis. Diplomacy and principles really don't go hand in hand at all. The whole point of diplomacy is to slowly bend someone to your way of thinking, by slowly bending your way of thinking to theirs. And to try and think this can be achieved with religious fundamentalists? :yeahright:

Lastly, as I said, it's the "we" I object to. You seem to assume that because I'm not a Labour supporter I'm a tory. Which is exactly the problem: party politics are a cancer, a divisive force that pits "us" against them. Rather than focussing on actual issues everythong turns into a mud sling. As the Labour and Conservative parties both demonstrate on a near daily basis, they don't soeak with a single voice, they bicker and squabble just as much internally as they do with one another. Yet you refer to "we".

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Wed May 23, 2018 10:33 am

Jim wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:15 pm
He’s a very right wing Labour rep
And that there is what makes it so entertaining to watch from the outside. He's not far-right, he's a normal left-wing Labour activist who disagrees with the path Momentum want to take the party down and helped get someone else selected as candidate for the forthcoming by-election. So he's had his character assassinated by some high-profile Corbyn supporters on Twitter, who've trawled through his past to find something they can present that makes him look bad when taken completely out of context. Basically, he's been suspended for pointing out that ISIS are evil fuckers. :?

And the fun part is seeing the rabid mob spitting their vitriol at him and anyone who tells the full story, the lack of self-awareness is just astonishing.

We've got an awful Prime Minister, a government that is making fundamental cock ups on a regular basis, and yet the opposition are too busy fighting themselves to put them under any pressure. I keep hoping the three main parties will finally self destruct and something more credible rises from their ashes. We don't need left and right, we need something that works for everyone (and that's true left and right, not left and right-of-Stalin/Mao/Castro... ;) )

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Re: General Election

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Re: General Election

Post by theadore » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:11 pm

Indeed... after nearly a decade of draconian cuts, low corporation tax and taking benefits away from people with disabilities... employment is nearly back to its pre-2008 crash levels.

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https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlab ... employment

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:44 pm

theadore wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:11 pm
Indeed... after nearly a decade of draconian cuts, low corporation tax and taking benefits away from people with disabilities... employment is nearly back to its pre-2008 crash levels.

:hyper:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlab ... employment
So your point is, emphasise just how much damage the government of the time did? Be thankful they haven't been back since? ;)

Not sure what you want to draw attention to on that link, but "Figure 2" shows employment at the highest rate since the chart starts in 1971...

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Re: General Election

Post by Dan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:39 pm

It'll be due to all the foreigners coming over here taking the jobs. ;) ;)

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Re: General Election

Post by mcteeth » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm

It would be good to know how people employed in zero-hour contracts are categorised, the ONS also published estimates in April 2018 that it was 901,000. Also from a biannual survey of businesses it indicated that there were 1.8m contracts that did not guarantee a minimum number of hours, this represents around 6% of all employment contracts.

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Re: General Election

Post by Ethiaa » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:55 pm

Now recruiting lettuce pickers at a farm near you (with guaranteed hours).

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:09 pm

mcteeth wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
It would be good to know how people employed in zero-hour contracts are categorised, the ONS also published estimates in April 2018 that it was 901,000. Also from a biannual survey of businesses it indicated that there were 1.8m contracts that did not guarantee a minimum number of hours, this represents around 6% of all employment contracts.
All you need to do is click on Theo's link... ;)
"For April to June 2018, there were 780,000 people (not seasonally adjusted) in employment on “zero-hours contracts” in their main job, 104,000 fewer than for a year earlier."

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Re: General Election

Post by mcteeth » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:21 pm

Ta, interesting to see some of the figures.

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:01 pm

Dan wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:39 pm
It'll be due to all the foreigners coming over here taking the jobs. ;) ;)
Nah, looking at those charts its cause of all the women taking jobs....

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Re: General Election

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Re: General Election

Post by Dan » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:21 pm

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:33 pm

Definitely elected under false pretences if Labour voters were backing him....

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