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Re: General Election

Post by mcteeth » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:55 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion-pact

Interesting to see how that pans out, could further fragment the Tories and force them to support no deal.

Love how he still talks about a clean break brexit as if it means anything other than being a complete pipe dream. Idiot.

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Re: General Election

Post by mcteeth » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am

And Scottish Court rules prorogation as unlawful. Not sure how much that will mean given the timescales.

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:58 am

And it'll be appealed further.

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Re: General Election

Post by mcteeth » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:31 pm

Precisely.

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:56 am

Ethiaa wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:43 pm

The news. They are talking about it right now on R4 for example.
K. Wasn't aware they'd just proposed changing their policy at next month's conference, that's all you needed to say.

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:26 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:58 am
And it'll be appealed further.
Can it go up to the ECJ? Now that would be fun...

The fact it's now been deemed legal in one constituent country and illegal in another highlights a problem with unions... :yeahright:

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:36 am

Not really a problem with unions. Just a problem with people having differing opinions and not having a written formal constitution.

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:37 am

Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:56 am
Ethiaa wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:43 pm

The news. They are talking about it right now on R4 for example.
K. Wasn't aware they'd just proposed changing their policy at next month's conference, that's all you needed to say.
And perhaps you needed to take a less antagonistic approach, not setting everything up to be an argument.... oh, hang on a minute....

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:38 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:37 am

And perhaps you needed to take a less antagonistic approach, not setting everything up to be an argument.... oh, hang on a minute....
What is argumentative about asking how Labour's policy differs from the Lib Dem's? Obviously, I was unaware at the time that the Lib Dem's were planning to change from what was stated in the BBC article and on their own website. But that takes us off on a tangent, all I was looking for was some consensus on facts. Similarly, Tom Watson saying he wants Labour to back "remain" doesn't seem much of a contradiction with Corbyn saying there would be a "leave" option on a second referendum, the difference is when they would hold that referendum (and even then, I'm not sure Watson was saying it was a realistic possibility to force a second referendum before a GE).


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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:09 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:38 am
mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:37 am

And perhaps you needed to take a less antagonistic approach, not setting everything up to be an argument.... oh, hang on a minute....
What is argumentative about asking how Labour's policy differs from the Lib Dem's? Obviously, I was unaware at the time that the Lib Dem's were planning to change from what was stated in the BBC article and on their own website. But that takes us off on a tangent, all I was looking for was some consensus on facts. Similarly, Tom Watson saying he wants Labour to back "remain" doesn't seem much of a contradiction with Corbyn saying there would be a "leave" option on a second referendum, the difference is when they would hold that referendum (and even then, I'm not sure Watson was saying it was a realistic possibility to force a second referendum before a GE).
I think saying "I'm not sure where you get that from" is fairly antagonistic....

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Re: General Election

Post by Rover the Top » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:29 pm

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:09 pm


I think saying "I'm not sure where you get that from" is fairly antagonistic....
It certainly wasn't intended to be, and I could use the same sentence here in a similar way. It's a reasonable thing to say when someone is assuming a context that isn't true.

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 pm

Perhaps it's just with an added history of contempt, such as starting posts with "Eh?" Etc.

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:04 am

Labour continue to be democratic....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49776100

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Re: General Election

Post by mrblackbat » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:45 pm

And Lib Dems track higher than Labour according to YouGov.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... ept-update

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