Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
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Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
The big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
The game is already well established, lots of seasons running now. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum (and admin Hakuna Matata to be precise) does the real hard mathematical work all during the season, whilst I’m from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous forum and do more the ‘public relations’ type stuff as most of you already know. We are both going to be your points of reference for all this coming season.
Old hands know this well. But for newcomers, what is this game? It’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2016-17 (that means placing all teams, in order from 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!!
Please note that this season we are reverting back to making it an INDIVIDUAL PLAYER event, there was a clamour for that, as well as also later a forum average if you have the minimum entries needed. For that we’ve had to reduce the number of participating forums to about a dozen, because if we kept with the nearly forty fan forums last season it would become a full-time job! This game will initially take you just a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – BEST IDEA is simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2016-17 season. The Sunderland computer handles them in an alphabetical order initially so please help us with accurate spelling as laid out below …
Arsenal
Bournemouth
Burnley
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Hull
Leicester
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Middlesbrough
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Swansea
Tottenham
Watford
West Brom
West Ham
We need to keep this order alphabetical or it’s a huge edit job, so specifically no ‘Gunners’, ‘Villa’, ‘Spurs’, ‘Hammers’, ‘Palace’, etc. or we might not accept it if it’s too much unraveling work. Bournemouth comes for us under ‘B’, so try to avoid ‘AFC’ Bournemouth! Best is always simply COPY and RE-ARRANGE these on your PC!
Next …
According to your choices you will score points, and better still, very few, points. And how do you “sparingly” score those points?
Scoring is as follows:
For each team you score one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (now that’s really excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better.
I will endeavour to make updates at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, and occasionally fortnightly, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest. The big winners are the forums at the end of the season who have LEAST points in total including every premier league team after the final game has been played.
The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That means points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 30th/31st - except when part-way through a weekend programme in which case we will wait to a maximum of Monday night for completed weekend programme to calculate progress reports). This worked pretty good last season.
Here's the idea of the bonuses:
1st spot - take off 3 bonus points from score, so your score dips even lower
2nd - take off 2 bonus points
3rd - take off 1 bonus point
The good thing is that the Bonus Points are for the most successful and includes tied points so there may well be more than 3 players involved. Their scores for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account - although you do of course keep these all season so lowering your OVERALL total.
I will give you an entire listing of every participant in order all through the season, plus a separate ranking of just those on your forum.
EXTRA FUN! - A SEPARATE BUT RELATED GAME - FORUM AVERAGE ENTRY COMPETITION … where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people we will make a ‘board average’, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others across the land**. It is set against a single initial average entry taken from your forum guesses, and this average will be the forum entry so MAY VARY from your general looking individual entries. Five different member entries as a minimum is the requirement (no maximum!), this so as to avoid ‘fluke’ results which might distort the good guess-work averaged out by forums with larger numbers. These updates will be made in the middle or just after middle, or every month.
IMPORTANT –
ENTRIES IN BY [EDIT ]FRIDAY 12TH AUGUST 2016 – late entries cannot be accepted, no undue advantages offered once we have an idea of the real table, even to old trusted friends. It might also put our forum average well off. Once the first matches have kicked off … that’s it!
Have fun … it will be worth that little bit of effort - promised
daib0
** participating forums - these have proved to us to be the best (entries / serious and witty comments / light-hearted competition between yourselves etc.) over the past few seasons:
READING Royals Rendezvous
SUNDERLAND Black Cat Chat
BLACKPOOL Back Henry Street
PETERBOROUGH Posh Forum
LEEDS LUFC Talk
BLACKBURN Rovers Talk
WATFORD WFC Forums
NEWCASTLE Toon Forum
EVERTON ToffeeTalk
MAN CITY MCFC Forum
MAN UTD United Lounge
SPURS Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site
The game is already well established, lots of seasons running now. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum (and admin Hakuna Matata to be precise) does the real hard mathematical work all during the season, whilst I’m from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous forum and do more the ‘public relations’ type stuff as most of you already know. We are both going to be your points of reference for all this coming season.
Old hands know this well. But for newcomers, what is this game? It’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2016-17 (that means placing all teams, in order from 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!!
Please note that this season we are reverting back to making it an INDIVIDUAL PLAYER event, there was a clamour for that, as well as also later a forum average if you have the minimum entries needed. For that we’ve had to reduce the number of participating forums to about a dozen, because if we kept with the nearly forty fan forums last season it would become a full-time job! This game will initially take you just a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – BEST IDEA is simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2016-17 season. The Sunderland computer handles them in an alphabetical order initially so please help us with accurate spelling as laid out below …
Arsenal
Bournemouth
Burnley
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Hull
Leicester
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Middlesbrough
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Swansea
Tottenham
Watford
West Brom
West Ham
We need to keep this order alphabetical or it’s a huge edit job, so specifically no ‘Gunners’, ‘Villa’, ‘Spurs’, ‘Hammers’, ‘Palace’, etc. or we might not accept it if it’s too much unraveling work. Bournemouth comes for us under ‘B’, so try to avoid ‘AFC’ Bournemouth! Best is always simply COPY and RE-ARRANGE these on your PC!
Next …
According to your choices you will score points, and better still, very few, points. And how do you “sparingly” score those points?
Scoring is as follows:
For each team you score one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (now that’s really excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better.
I will endeavour to make updates at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, and occasionally fortnightly, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest. The big winners are the forums at the end of the season who have LEAST points in total including every premier league team after the final game has been played.
The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That means points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 30th/31st - except when part-way through a weekend programme in which case we will wait to a maximum of Monday night for completed weekend programme to calculate progress reports). This worked pretty good last season.
Here's the idea of the bonuses:
1st spot - take off 3 bonus points from score, so your score dips even lower
2nd - take off 2 bonus points
3rd - take off 1 bonus point
The good thing is that the Bonus Points are for the most successful and includes tied points so there may well be more than 3 players involved. Their scores for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account - although you do of course keep these all season so lowering your OVERALL total.
I will give you an entire listing of every participant in order all through the season, plus a separate ranking of just those on your forum.
EXTRA FUN! - A SEPARATE BUT RELATED GAME - FORUM AVERAGE ENTRY COMPETITION … where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people we will make a ‘board average’, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others across the land**. It is set against a single initial average entry taken from your forum guesses, and this average will be the forum entry so MAY VARY from your general looking individual entries. Five different member entries as a minimum is the requirement (no maximum!), this so as to avoid ‘fluke’ results which might distort the good guess-work averaged out by forums with larger numbers. These updates will be made in the middle or just after middle, or every month.
IMPORTANT –
ENTRIES IN BY [EDIT ]FRIDAY 12TH AUGUST 2016 – late entries cannot be accepted, no undue advantages offered once we have an idea of the real table, even to old trusted friends. It might also put our forum average well off. Once the first matches have kicked off … that’s it!
Have fun … it will be worth that little bit of effort - promised
daib0
** participating forums - these have proved to us to be the best (entries / serious and witty comments / light-hearted competition between yourselves etc.) over the past few seasons:
READING Royals Rendezvous
SUNDERLAND Black Cat Chat
BLACKPOOL Back Henry Street
PETERBOROUGH Posh Forum
LEEDS LUFC Talk
BLACKBURN Rovers Talk
WATFORD WFC Forums
NEWCASTLE Toon Forum
EVERTON ToffeeTalk
MAN CITY MCFC Forum
MAN UTD United Lounge
SPURS Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site
Last edited by daib0 on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:17 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Entries like this, MINE invented just as an example, so put your own order of teams of course!
daib0 (I won’t later appear on your forum list - but on Reading’s “RR” - this is your game on your forum!)
1 Manchester city
2 Tottenham Hotspur
3 Leicester City
4 Liverpool
5 Arsenal
6 Manchester United
7 Chelsea
8 West Ham United
9 Crystal Palace
10 Everton
11 Watford
12 West Bromich Albion
13 Southampton
14 Middlesbrough
15 Sunderland
16 Bournemouth
17 Burnley
18 Stoke city
19 Swansea City
20 Hull City
daib0
And an important reminder once again - we need just a minimum of FIVE entries each forum to constitute a forum average entry!!
daib0 (I won’t later appear on your forum list - but on Reading’s “RR” - this is your game on your forum!)
1 Manchester city
2 Tottenham Hotspur
3 Leicester City
4 Liverpool
5 Arsenal
6 Manchester United
7 Chelsea
8 West Ham United
9 Crystal Palace
10 Everton
11 Watford
12 West Bromich Albion
13 Southampton
14 Middlesbrough
15 Sunderland
16 Bournemouth
17 Burnley
18 Stoke city
19 Swansea City
20 Hull City
daib0
And an important reminder once again - we need just a minimum of FIVE entries each forum to constitute a forum average entry!!
Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Chelsea
Man City
Man Utd
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Southampton
Leicester
West Ham
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Everton
West Brom
Swansea
Bournemouth
Watford
Hull
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Burnley
Man City
Man Utd
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Southampton
Leicester
West Ham
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Everton
West Brom
Swansea
Bournemouth
Watford
Hull
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Burnley
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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
that's the way!!! 

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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Man City
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man Utd
Leicester
West Ham
Tottenham
Liverpool
Swansea
Stoke
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Everton
West Brom
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Bournemouth
Watford
Burnley
Hull
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man Utd
Leicester
West Ham
Tottenham
Liverpool
Swansea
Stoke
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Everton
West Brom
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Bournemouth
Watford
Burnley
Hull
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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Ahem ... cough cough ... just wondered, any chance od de-sticky-ing or de-pinning last season's game and fixing this one in its place? As always, this will be manned during the whole season, if a job's worth doing and all that
Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Good point... now get that cough looked at 

Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Arsenal
Man City
Chelsea
Man Utd
Liverpool
Tottenham
Leicester
Everton
Bournemouth
West Ham
Stoke
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Hull
Middlesbrough
Swansea
West Brom
Watford
Burnley
Sunderland
Man City
Chelsea
Man Utd
Liverpool
Tottenham
Leicester
Everton
Bournemouth
West Ham
Stoke
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Hull
Middlesbrough
Swansea
West Brom
Watford
Burnley
Sunderland
Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
Leicester
Stoke
Everton
Southampton
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Middlesbrough
Swansea
Sunderland
Watford
West Brom
Burnley
Hull
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
Leicester
Stoke
Everton
Southampton
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Middlesbrough
Swansea
Sunderland
Watford
West Brom
Burnley
Hull
Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Predicting this was massively difficult. There is a case to make for at least 7 teams to fight it out for the top 4 places and then you're left with a lot of teams who look better than mid table on paper at least.
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Arsenal
Man City
Man Utd
Tottenham
Chelsea
Liverpool
Crystal Palace
West Ham
Stoke
Leicester
Sunderland
Watford
Swansea
Everton
Southampton
West Brom
Bournemouth
Middlesbrough
Hull
Burnley
Man City
Man Utd
Tottenham
Chelsea
Liverpool
Crystal Palace
West Ham
Stoke
Leicester
Sunderland
Watford
Swansea
Everton
Southampton
West Brom
Bournemouth
Middlesbrough
Hull
Burnley
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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
Given my previous terrible attempts at this, I'm just going to go alphabetically:-
Arsenal
Bournemouth
Burnley
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Hull
Leicester
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Middlesbrough
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Swansea
Tottenham
Watford
West Brom
West Ham

Arsenal
Bournemouth
Burnley
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Hull
Leicester
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Middlesbrough
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Swansea
Tottenham
Watford
West Brom
West Ham

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Re: Big Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2016-17
someone did that from Watford a couple of seasons ago - wasn't absolute last either, but nothing to write home about ...


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cheers, going just great, already 45 in ...Dan wrote:Good point... now get that cough looked at
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Man City
Tottenham
Man Utd
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Stoke
Leicester
West Ham
Southampton
Everton
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Hull
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Burnley
Watford
West Brom
Tottenham
Man Utd
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Stoke
Leicester
West Ham
Southampton
Everton
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Hull
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Burnley
Watford
West Brom